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Jplay Audiophile Computer Playback Software

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I'm just getting started with computer audio. This sounds very interesting, I always wondered how much all that other stuff a computer is doing in the background could affect the quality of playback. I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion that this is expensive. Yes it may be pricey as far as the actuall program, but what other piece of audio gear or accessory could you buy for $133? What are the alternatives? Buy a dedicated music streamer capable of delivering bit perfect audio from your computer music collection to you audio system? From what I've seen out there you could buy a computer and jplay for quite a bit less than the music servers being offered. Also there seems to be a way of using Jriver - a gui interfaced system of music cataloging and playback along with jplay (despite the names the companies are not related), maybe you could look into this and test it out.
After investing thousands in my speakers, preamp/dac, and amps this looks to me to be a relatively cheap was of delivering computer based music files to my system. A relatively moderate
but powerfull computer can be purchased for about $400, add jplay for $133 and you have a high end audiophile playback system. What kind of CD player can you buy for $533? and it still wouldn't be able to download and store thousands of songs, and you still have a computer that you can use when it's not in use for music playback.

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Jplay will appeal to the gullible. Shame on S&V for such a shalllow article. Jplay was exposed as a scam in other forums, admitting among other things that the output is bit-identical to the sound they claim to improve from players like JRiver and Foobar2000. Jplay was also caught violating copyrights, and is under investigation for intellectual property theft. The only certain outcome is that buyers will soon need a new computer, because Jplay will create a thermal overload of your system by disabling so many critical (and non-sound impacting) operating system functions.

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I'm not sure a discussion on Hydrogen Audio amounts to being "under investigation for IP theft" — you have some news you could link to of an official proceeding being launched?

And sure, JPlay may well be useless, but it's also not terribly helpful to say that those trying it out will be "certain" to need new hardware unless you have some evidence of that.

In any case, should we really be ashamed for posting something that says, quite guardedly "we tried this application — maybe we heard a difference; we're not sure — since you can try if for free, check it out" ?

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Just to be clear, I am currently considering jPlay, and I have a lot of hardware and computer background. I've also read the blathering on HydrogenAudio.....

The fellows who wrote JPlay seemed to be very direct in their claims: their program doesn't change the bits; what it does is to minimize the computer overhead, which should make the computer better able to deliver the bits with better timing. What I would EXPECT from that claim is that JPlay might well have a significant effect on how many USB DACs sound - and none whatsoever on others. (I would expect some effect on non-asynch USB DACs; little to no effect on asynch USB DACS; and varying effect on DACs that use some sort of jitter reduction - dependiong on how much the DAC cares about jitter; and a lot will depend on the computer as well.)

My point is that I haven't seen any unreasonable claims made on their (JPlay's) part. They say "here's what it does, and some people hear an improvement" - and I see no reason to doubt that claim, and no reason to assume that it is some sort of scam. It just sort of offends me when people who don't have the technical background to understand the situation attack someone else based on that lack of knowledge. Reducing processing overhead on a HTPC MIGHT improve the delivery of audio, and certainly won't hurt it - and there is no reason to suggest that it would somehow damage the machine (any more than any other utility program is likely to).

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I looked at Jplay too, and I have a computer background too, and I gotta tell you, the Jplay developers were exposed as incompetent on every key issue specifically tested by the JRiver and Foobar2000 developers. Jplay's claim of residing entirely in memory was refuted, their latency claim was exposed, and double blind testing revealed no difference. If Jplay were genuinely interested in unbiased "listen and make up your own mind" decisions, then their website would not be so carefully crafted to bias any decision, and they'd embrace double blind testing. Jplay was even dismantled in the forum of the most sympathetic listers (computeraudiophile). Jplay just has zero credibility.

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Wow, Julian Hirsch and every deceased competent engineer or scientist must have rolled in their graves when MBerk posted. S&V should be ashamed that they've abandoned the scientific method and instead favor disinegenuous methods that leverage classical fallacies. I guess we can only depend on S&V for puff pieces instead of the insightful articles of the past. Prove me wrong and use double blind testing for determining the presence or not of audible differences.

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