
The result
Now I had my measurement procedure as good as I could possibly get it — and at least as close to perfect as anyone else’s. To my disappointment, the numbers I got fell in between the results from Hsu and Audioholics. My Ultra-Low Bass average for the VTF-15H in maximum extension mode was 117.2 dB — 1 dB below Hsu and 2.3 dB above Audioholics. Full results will be posted on the VTF-15H review.
And after measuring a few more subs, I found that my results were generally within a couple dB of the ones I was getting originally with the spectrum analyzer.
What I’ve learned from this exercise is that it’s probably impossible for any two technicians measuring different subwoofer samples in different environments with different gear to get the same CEA-2010 measurements. Any number of factors could throw off one or both technicians, and errors created by these factors can combine to create larger errors. These factors include:
One change I’ve made to our lab reports as a result of this exercise is that we’re now including the CEA-2010 results at all frequencies, instead of just the Ultra-Low Bass and Low Bass averages. This change shows more clearly where a subwoofer’s output starts to dive.
For example, the VTF-15H averages 121.8 dB from 40 to 63 Hz, while the Cadence CSX-12 averages 121.5 dB. Practically the same, right?
But if you look at the full numbers, you see that the VTF-15H outputs 122.7 dB at 63 Hz, 121.2 dB at 50 Hz and 121.6 dB at 40 Hz. Compare this to the CSX-12, which puts out 125.6 dB at 63 Hz, 121.9 dB at 50 Hz and 117.2 dB at 40 Hz. Obviously, the CSX-12 (which has a smaller 12-inch driver and a smaller cabinet, and is less expensive than the VTF-15H) is tuned for maximum upper-bass punch at the expense of low-bass output. Thus, the full CEA-2010 results show that these are two very different subs, even though their CEA-2010 Low Bass averages are almost identical.
All this effort leaves me with one piece of advice for S+V readers: Evaluate CEA-2010 measurements carefully, especially if they’re coming from two different sources
It’s likely that CEA-2010 numbers from one entity will be reasonably consistent — i.e., if S+V measurements show that subwoofer A puts out 5 dB more at 20 Hz than subwoofer B, then subwoofer A will definitely give you more rumble when the depth charges go off in U-571. But if S+V says subwoofer A puts out 110.1 dB at 20 Hz and Audioholics says subwoofer B puts out 108.3 dB at 20 Hz, don’t assume subwoofer A is better than subwoofer B.
Furthermore, don’t assume a subwoofer that gets an extra 2 dB compared to another sub is significantly better, no matter who measured them. Day-to-day variations in the environment and tiny variations in measurement procedure and setup could account for a difference that large. And even if that extra 2 dB is real, whether or not you’ll actually hear it in your living room is questionable.
So as I’ve said for 20 years, and as other audio writers have been saying for at least 50: Read the whole review, don’t just skip to the end.
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Brent,
When you were remeasuring the Hsu VTF-15H, did you measure it on it's side or was it upright? Or did you measure both? Some questions have come up about the impact of the ports in various orientations and how they may over/under emphasize output at and near the tuning frequency. Or the change may have little to no effect. I would be interesting to see your results on both orientations if possible as it may again make your test results skew more towards one set of results or another (in this example, Audioholics and Hsu's).
The measurements I've published were all done vertically. I did try it once horizontally just out of curiosity, but as I recall at 2 meters it didn't make that much difference. My rule of thumb with any speaker measurement has always been to measure the device in a way as similar as possible to that in which it will actually be used.
As I suggested in the article, I don't think it's worthwhile to get all worked up about a dB or two, especially in the case of subs like the VTF-15H that have more than sufficient output at all frequencies for practically any home application. It's like worrying about your sports car being 520 horsepower vs. 530 horsepower.